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Calvinism: Is God Working in Our Circumstances?

Listener: "The word “chance” used in Luke 10:31 which you quoted – is the only time that version of the word is used in scripture according to “Strong’s”. Your often-used phrase in teaching regarding reading “other people’s mail” really pushed me to dig into Paul’s letters of instruction to US for this specific topic. There is so much information about our ambassadorship – more than anything else – but – there are comments regarding our walk and His involvement IN our pathway here.

Paul states clearly in Colossians 1:17 that by Jesus Christ do all things consist – “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.( to put together, unite parts into one whole)
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.”
You are ignoring I Corinthians 10:13 – If God is not involved in our lives, then How can this verse be true?"


TTR: I do not teach that God is not involved in our lives. The only way you could arrive at such a conclusion would be to take my words and lift them out of their context. What I HAVE said is that God is not a puppet master, pushing buttons and pulling levers at specific times changing our situations and making things happen or not happen. Your situation may change and things might happen as a direct RESULT of God, but it wont be because God at a specific time stepped in and supernaturally did something about your situation. It will be a result of how you allow his WORD to affect your decisions and responses. 

The wide wide world of Twistianity is eat up with a cancer called Calvinism. According to their theology, God hasn't DONE it, he is still DOING it. However, God says we have been (HAVE been, not are BEING) "throughly furnished unto all good works." (2 Timothy 3:17)

If God has done everything for my salvation and has throughly furnished me unto all good works, now it's my turn to respond to that. We should stop waiting for God to do what he has already DONE.


Listener: “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.”


TTR: And just how does God "make a way to escape"? His completed WORD. He is not magically opening and shutting the doors of our life. No, he has furnished us with something FAR greater. His WORD. The same word that he magnifies above his own name. And it's his word that made a way to escape. We have the mind of Christ, (1 Corinthians 2:16) and if we will only USE it, we can avoid a lot of trouble in this present evil world.

Think about this. "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:" THERE is my "way to escape," (The scripture) and is what equips me to "be able to bear it."


Listener: "Even Paul states that he was forbidden and not allowed - by the Holy Ghost - in Acts 16:6 “And so were the churches established in the faith, and increased in number daily.
6 Now when they had gone throughout Phrygia and the region of Galatia, and were forbidden of the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia,
7 After they were come to Mysia, they assayed to go into Bithynia: but the Spirit suffered (allowed) them not."


TTR: Yes, and at that time Paul was being supernaturally inspired. And is why he wrote "All scripture is given by inspiration of God,". You're referring to a time period when God was supernaturally speaking to Paul to "fulfill the word of God". (Colossians 1:25)

But today, if WE are "forbidden and not allowed - by the Holy Ghost" to do something, it's a result of a free will choice that we made. A choice that we made as a result of what we READ in a book written BY the Holy Ghost. THAT'S how WE'RE persuaded today. We're governed by God's WORD. 

I might also add that I would be careful when going to the book of Acts for doctrine. In the book of Acts, Paul was water baptized, even though he never instructed us to be. In the book of Acts, Paul shaved his head and took a vow, even though he never instructed us to do so. In the book of Acts, Paul instructed Timothy to be circumcised, even though he told us "if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing." In the book of Acts, Paul was healing the sick with his handkerchiefs and aprons, even though my handkerchief is only good for blowing my nose.

Point being, the book of Acts is a transitional book and not the best place to go for doctrine. Our day to day marching orders are found in the books Romans thru Philemon, and even SOME of those instructions are progressive. Some, Paul wrote while he was still seeing "through a glass, darkly;" and only knew in part. And some, Paul wrote after "that which is perfect" had come, and "that which is in part" was "done away." (As I taught on in a recent teaching called "The Perfect Has ALREADY Come".


Listener: "Also Romans 8:14 – as Believers we are LED – that’s being involved when someone is leading! “For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God"


TTR: Exactly, but HOW? Are we lead by an audible voice? A spiritual leash? Signs and wonders? Just how are we lead? -BY  HIS  WORD. 


Listener: "And Romans 8:28 “And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.” – How can all things work together – an action – if His hand isn’t in the life of the Believer?"


TTR: We don't have "His hand" but we do have His word. The way God has chosen to actively work in the believers life today is through his word. 

1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe. 


Listener: "This morning – before starting work, I decided to listen to a newer upload of yours – on “What about Supernatural Signs and Healings? Aug 2, 2019 – I agree that the “Apostlistic Signs” – Miracles and healing, tongues, etc. would end – those gifts to Humans! Those are the things that were the subject of Paul’s discussion when he stated that they would cease – I Corinthians 13:8 “Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.” But that doesn’t change what God does – in any way. The entire Universe consists because Christ holds it together. Paul states clearly in Colossians 1:17 that by Jesus Christ do all things consist – “For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.( to put together, unite parts into one whole)
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence."


TTR: I do not disagree with any of these verses. Not really sure what point your attempting to make.


Listener: "Prior to Israel – Scripture reveals basic truths of this earth as well – which continue through Israel’s history – when God would cause rain or hail – or withhold it!
Genesis 2:5 -It had never rained and GOD caused it to rain – “And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.”
Genesis 7:4 – God states the He will make it rain and for how long – “For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth."


TTR: Yes, God did that. Again, I missed your point. Those verses demonstrate how God dealt in "time past". I have never taught that God did not act in the supernatural in past dispensations. -To the contrary. Scripture is clear on this. 


Listener: "The WOMB is totally His domain! To think that a soul enters the womb without God is contrary to God’s entire plan for man."


TTR: A soul doesn't ENTER the womb. That sounds like a teaching from the late false prophet Arnold Murray. He and others teach that souls are floating around in heaven waiting for a body. Pre-existing spirits is a teaching made popular by Joseph Smith. (Mormonism) “We were first begotten as spirit babies in heaven and then born naturally on earth”(Journal of Discourse, Vol. 4, p. 218). And they teach that these "heavenly spirits" were  produced by God the Father and his wife in heaven. This false teaching was known even before Mormonism. It was a philosophy of Plato and the Stoics.

However, Paul tells us that the natural is first, THEN the spirit.1 Corinthians 15:46-47 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 

"He created Adam, Genesis 2:7 “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

This speaks to the origin of man. -The first man Adam. This is not speaking of each individual baby ever born. No one is being formed from "the dust of the ground" anymore. 


Listener: "And each soul that came through the womb as well…
Genesis 20:18, I Samuel 1:5&6 He closes wombs and Genesis 25:24 and Genesis 30:22 He opens wombs.
He made and fashioned us in the womb – Job 31:15 – “Did not he that made me in the womb make him? and did not one fashion us in the womb?” Isaiah 44:2 “Thus saith the Lord that made thee, and formed thee from the womb,"


TTR: These are all supernatural works of God, yet not even one were written TO or ABOUT us. You're going back before the cross and before Paul wrote to us to try to make your point. They did not have the completed word of God, so of COURSE God dealt with them in the supernatural. Supernatural signs played a vital role in their interacting with God. 

Think of it this way. They received his supernatural SIGNS, we received his supernatural WORD. (Completed)


Listener: "Children are a gift from the Lord – Psalm 127:3 “Lo, children are an heritage of the Lord: and the fruit of the womb is his reward.” If He had nothing to do with each one – how can He claim that they are a gift from Him?"


TTR: Because being able to have children IS a gift from God. I am thankful for all three of mine. I even find myself thanking God for my two poodles. What an awesome creation and gift from God! But God didn't give me my two individual poodles, but he did create the first two dogs. (Wolves)


Listener: "I appreciate your input - as trying to dig deep into the Word - to sort out what does Our Apostle really teach and what is the "blenderized" version of scripture that we were taught, has caused a horrible divide in the family. Where there can only be fellowship if there is agreement on Truth according to them, rather than what the Scripture clearly states - unwilling to change when Truth, rightly divided, according to Paul, our apostle, is taught. It's not easy - but it's necessary." 


TTR: Agree totally, and I appreciate the fact that you are ready to dig deep for the answers that are in God's perfectly preserved word of truth.


Listener: "Paul's entire assignment was to reveal to us, in this age, what the Risen Christ taught Him was for us and to us. That's why Paul makes it clear that he didn't go and seek instruction from the 12. If what the 12 were teaching, or Christ's earthly ministry was TO us - Paul wouldn't have stated by inspiration Romans 15:8 - "Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers" and Galatians 1:16 - "To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:" He didn't go and ask the 12 to bring him up to speed on the gospel, nor ask them for copies of the epistles they were writing.
I Thess. 5:21 - Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.   

Digging for clear truth."


TTR: Agree again! Hey that's two in a row. This could be the start of something :) 

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